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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

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  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  done4good (A) " Something is very broken in the watchtower land. I would love to know what it is?"

  The Rebel. ( A) Royal commissions, child abuse payouts, the Internet, over-lapping generations...I could go on all day,

  Anyway I think the organisation realise the past way of doing things is over, that in lands of prosperity householders know longer believe the bible is the word of God.

  So I would bring in an outside marketing company, and say " we are paying out large settlements in child abuse settlements, we have blood doctrine that could go the same way, and the Internet is showing us up for " The business lead organisation we are". Therefore how would you solve this and protect our, property, money and image?

  And my unqualified advice would be, let's get the problems you will face in 5 years time out the way today, and start again.

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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  For an organisation that is built on " reputation" letting go of bethelites does seem a public image disaster.

  a) The message has to be this is a business decision.

  b) And is letting go of " Volunteers" such a cost saving measure.

  c) And the exercise in my opinion will effect contributions.

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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  Your probably right guys, they are having financial problems.

  But letting go of long serving " bethalites, who are not even employed but volunteers is sending a message, that will surely wake many up to the realisation that that the society has no honour. This seems very drastic, as it will loose both members and contributions.

  I am obviously missing something, and answers would be welcomed.

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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  The Rebel

  It is evident that the W.T has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques. So the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.

  But this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required. Therefore :-
  

  A) They may realise rebranding will result in many leaving the organisation.

  B) And surely the money they will now loose in donations would have covered the bethelites expenses?

  So could this down sizing be the W.T taking the long term view, as part of its rebranding strategy? And if the the old way of doing things is over, then maybe it's good business to have a mass exodus, in order to complete the rebranding?

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  Birthday. 2 years old.

  by punkofnice in

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  yesterday was my granddaughters 2nd birthday.

  they had a party for her.

  i bought a gift which she loved.

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  I remember when my boy was two, I bought him a present I thought he would love, he opened it and spent the entire afternoon playing with the empty box.

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  I think Christmas is totally.....

  by The Rebel in

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  for the kids:-.

  so yesterday in accordance with my boys wish, we put the christmas tree and decorations up.

  ridiculously early i know, but it made him happy, and even i found decorating the tree fun.. the rebel..

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  for the kids:-

  So yesterday in accordance with my boys wish, we put the Christmas tree and decorations up. Ridiculously early I know, but it made him happy, and even I found decorating the tree fun.

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  Jeb Bush would kill a baby !

  by Simon in

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  ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.

  apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".

  but still wtf?

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  Appreciate the spontaneous response.

  You reply " I absolutely support the right of women to chose...."

  Personally I don't think that's a good politicians answer, and I would question the politicians "rationality" to that answer.

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  Jeb Bush would kill a baby !

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.

  apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".

  but still wtf?

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  Well with respect Simon, how would you answer, when put on the spot. " should we abort a baby, that will otherwise be born healthy ?"

  answer:-

  next question:-

  ( on the spot answer) " A father and mother both conceived a presumed healthy to be baby, does the mother have the right to abort if you the father don't want the presumed healthy to be baby aborted?"
  

  answer:-

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  Retirement Planning for ex-JW's

  by Simon in

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  this is something i think about a lot, possibly because i'm just getting older.

  it seems that not only should i finally one day decide what i want to do with my life, but i should also be planning for retirement.. hands up everyone who feels their future has been royally screwed by the wts experience?.

  if you were a good jw and followed the wts advice you could well be finding yourself facing middle or even old age without much or anything put aside in retirement savings.

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  Take out a 30 year mortgage and pay it off in ten. ( That takes opportunity and discipline, but it's worth it)

  Problem solved

  Why?

  Because every ten years property prices double. Paying double or treble monthly payments on your mortgage when interest rates are low, is mind boggling beneficial, but your bank manager won't tell you that.

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  Is my friend on the way out of the organisation?

  by The Rebel in

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  when i left the watchtower i realised it was best to put friendships on hold.

  however i mentioned to my best friend that i didn't agree with how they handled child abuse issues and that was one of the reasons i left.. anyway as i am fortunate and own two rental apartments and he is a plumber so we have kept in contact, in that i email him when i require his services and he sends me the invoice.

  anyway i am now dissociated, but yesterday i emailed him about a pluming problem, and he replied.. " sorry we missed going to the indian ( this was a comment made about us having a meal together about 9 months ago, which i backed out of because i felt he was too indoctrinated and i had not disassociated myself) anyway his email continued:-.

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  Well I received a long email back, mentioning his wife and children are pioneers, and concluding " I am being totally honest and frank in the above, and because of this I appreciate that it is kept between us"

  I will reply my in-box is always open.

  But I won't judge, I am sure he will do what he thinks is right.

  The Rebel.